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Good on you Saviour.
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Saviour at last you are seeing the light. The freedom of chocolate and toothpaste, that was great.
MIkegold117. You are like a cercura. It is none of you bloddy business why anyone separts. If anyone changes his/her mind it is their prerogative. St. Paul did. But if you are curious why don't you ask EFA the defender of marriage how come 4 I repeat 4 of his family (2 of them his children) got their marriage annulled?
Are you one of those that goes to church every day? Give me a whore antime at least she honest.
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@ Tanya Borg cardona MELA MA GHADEKX TGHID LI SER TWAQQAF LIL OMMOK U L-MISSIEREK MILLI JIVVUTAW.
X' gara ghax l-ahhar parti ta' dan il-kumment tieghek MT bidlita. Jidher li ghalik iz-zwieg hu joke basta ghamilt ftit quotations mhux hekk qisehekk xi lecturer tal University of Maz. Gihidilna ghax isseparajt zgur li mhux ghax kont imsawta
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I will be voting YES but for argument's sake here are some relevant points:
According to the Old Testament when Abraham and Sara remained barren, Sara complained 'Jehovah hath restrained me from bearing’ (Genesis 16:2), In her impatience she told Abraham to marry her maid, Hagar. Having more than one wife was acceptable in that culture….
The Church says that the Bible writers were witnesses to the life of Christ, and faithfully recorded what they heard and saw.
Correction: Most of the New Testament writers never met or saw Jesus in their lives. They lived many years after Jesus left the Earth. They wouldn't have known Jesus of Nazareth if they walked into him on the street.
But….The Bible writers were great believers and great historians. They took the stories which had been passed down to them and to their friends by others - elders - from elder to elder , until finally a written record was made. AND not everything of the Bible authors was included in the final document.
Already 'churches' had sprung up around the teachings of Jesus - and, as happens whenever and wherever people gather in groups around a powerful idea, there were certain individuals within these churches, or enclaves, who determined what parts of the Jesus Story were going to be told - and how. This process of selecting and editing continued throughout the gathering, writing, and publishing of the gospels - and the Bible.
For several centuries after the original scriptures were committed to writing, a High Council of the Church determined yet one more time which doctrines and truths were to be included in the then-official Bible - and which would be 'unhealthy' or 'premature' to reveal to the masses. And there have been other holy scriptures as well - each placed in writing in moments of inspiration by otherwise ordinary men.
I have also downloaded the 'Sancta Missa' which is the Rites of the Priesthood. Becoming a priest is to take a sacrament like marriage. I have also learnt that a nun is a 'state' not a sacrament as not the same rights are attributed to her. When a priest takes his vows he promises to value those vows forever and be faithful to those vows forever. A nun postulates herself in front of the bishop, takes her vows and becomes the 'bride of Jesus, wears a ring with a cross on it and says she will be 'married to Jesus' forever. BUT, if any of these decide that they cannot be faithful to their vows anymore, they can leave and start new lives, live with partners of the opposite or same sex, have children and move on...
Whatever one does be it murder, adultery, thievery, rape, abuse etc etc. you are forgiven - but get married and realise that you have made a mistake and there is NO forgiveness.....
You can get separated or have your marriage annulled - no problem - a lot of people do anyway. What I personally find very offensive is having a marriage annulled - especially when there are children. Annulment means that technically that marriage never took place - that makes a whole mockery of the beautiful children born within that marriage. At least divorce says that the marriage was there but not a rebuttal of the marriage itself and the children born within that marriage......
What kind of God do we believe in? We are told by those who misinterpret the words of the scriptures: God gives us 'free will to choose' but you have to 'fear the judgement of the Lord' - YET what kind of choice is free when to choose one thing over the other brings condemnation? How is 'free will' free when it is not your will, but someone else's which must be done. Those who teach this make a hypocrite of God. These behaviours are the behaviours historically demanded of their subjects by monarchs – usually ego-maniacal, insecure, tyrannical monarchs at that. If we choose to believe in a God who somehow has such hurt feelings that if He doesn’t get what He wants He punishes us – then we truly are the Children of a Lesser God.
In my opinion Divorce should have been a vote in parliament - it has now gone to the streets. This is a civil right not a question of morals or what God wants - where is the morality in having old people who do not know whether it is Monday or Thursday or what year we are being taken out to vote? I am speaking from experience as I have two parents in their 90's that are at St Vincent de Paule. My father is in the dementia ward. He is in this ward because he was assessed and diagnosed that he could not make any decisions for himself any longer. But according to this govt, he is fit to vote. My mother barely recognised me today but again she is fit to vote. Is this what God wants?
Personally, I could have got a divorce or an annulment years ago - haven't done so probably because of laziness - Does this give me the right to stop somebody from getting married again?
Having Divorce does not mean one has to make use of it - I give money to all the causes there are mostly Hospice, Putinu, Dar il Providenza etc - you hope to God you will not need them - that doesn't mean we don't have them.
Tanya Borg-Cardona
I will be voting YES but for argument's sake here are some relevant points:
According to the Old Testament when Abraham and Sara remained barren, Sara complained 'Jehovah hath restrained me from bearing’ (Genesis 16:2), In her impatience she told Abraham to marry her maid, Hagar. Having more than one wife was acceptable in that culture….
The Church says that the Bible writers were witnesses to the life of Christ, and faithfully recorded what they heard and saw.
Correction: Most of the New Testament writers never met or saw Jesus in their lives. They lived many years after Jesus left the Earth. They wouldn't have known Jesus of Nazareth if they walked into him on the street.
But….The Bible writers were great believers and great historians. They took the stories which had been passed down to them and to their friends by others - elders - from elder to elder , until finally a written record was made. AND not everything of the Bible authors was included in the final document.
Already 'churches' had sprung up around the teachings of Jesus - and, as happens whenever and wherever people gather in groups around a powerful idea, there were certain individuals within these churches, or enclaves, who determined what parts of the Jesus Story were going to be told - and how. This process of selecting and editing continued throughout the gathering, writing, and publishing of the gospels - and the Bible.
For several centuries after the original scriptures were committed to writing, a High Council of the Church determined yet one more time which doctrines and truths were to be included in the then-official Bible - and which would be 'unhealthy' or 'premature' to reveal to the masses. And there have been other holy scriptures as well - each placed in writing in moments of inspiration by otherwise ordinary men.
I have also downloaded the 'Sancta Missa' which is the Rites of the Priesthood. Becoming a priest is to take a sacrament like marriage. I have also learnt that a nun is a 'state' not a sacrament as not the same rights are attributed to her. When a priest takes his vows he promises to value those vows forever and be faithful to those vows forever. A nun postulates herself in front of the bishop, takes her vows and becomes the 'bride of Jesus, wears a ring with a cross on it and says she will be 'married to Jesus' forever. BUT, if any of these decide that they cannot be faithful to their vows anymore, they can leave and start new lives, live with partners of the opposite or same sex, have children and move on...
Whatever one does be it murder, adultery, thievery, rape, abuse etc etc. you are forgiven - but get married and realise that you have made a mistake and there is NO forgiveness.....
You can get separated or have your marriage annulled - no problem - a lot of people do anyway. What I personally find very offensive is having a marriage annulled - especially when there are children. Annulment means that technically that marriage never took place - that makes a whole mockery of the beautiful children born within that marriage. At least divorce says that the marriage was there but not a rebuttal of the marriage itself and the children born within that marriage......
What kind of God do we believe in? We are told by those who misinterpret the words of the scriptures: God gives us 'free will to choose' but you have to 'fear the judgement of the Lord' - YET what kind of choice is free when to choose one thing over the other brings condemnation? How is 'free will' free when it is not your will, but someone else's which must be done. Those who teach this make a hypocrite of God. These behaviours are the behaviours historically demanded of their subjects by monarchs – usually ego-maniacal, insecure, tyrannical monarchs at that. If we choose to believe in a God who somehow has such hurt feelings that if He doesn’t get what He wants He punishes us – then we truly are the Children of a Lesser God.
In my opinion Divorce should have been a vote in parliament - it has now gone to the streets. This is a civil right not a question of morals or what God wants - where is the morality in having old people who do not know whether it is Monday or Thursday or what year we are being taken out to vote? I am speaking from experience as I have two parents in their 90's that are at St Vincent de Paule. My father is in the dementia ward. He is in this ward because he was assessed and diagnosed that he could not make any decisions for himself any longer. But according to this govt, he is fit to vote. My mother barely recognised me today but again she is fit to vote. Is this what God wants?
Personally, I could have got a divorce or an annulment years ago - haven't done so probably because of laziness - Does this give me the right to stop somebody from getting married again?
Having Divorce does not mean one has to make use of it - I give money to all the causes there are mostly Hospice, Putinu, Dar il Providenza etc - you hope to God you will not need them - that doesn't mean we don't have them.
Tanya Borg-Cardona
I will be voting YES but for argument's sake here are some relevant points:
According to the Old Testament when Abraham and Sara remained barren, Sara complained 'Jehovah hath restrained me from bearing’ (Genesis 16:2), In her impatience she told Abraham to marry her maid, Hagar. Having more than one wife was acceptable in that culture….
The Church says that the Bible writers were witnesses to the life of Christ, and faithfully recorded what they heard and saw.
Correction: Most of the New Testament writers never met or saw Jesus in their lives. They lived many years after Jesus left the Earth. They wouldn't have known Jesus of Nazareth if they walked into him on the street.
But….The Bible writers were great believers and great historians. They took the stories which had been passed down to them and to their friends by others - elders - from elder to elder , until finally a written record was made. AND not everything of the Bible authors was included in the final document.
Already 'churches' had sprung up around the teachings of Jesus - and, as happens whenever and wherever people gather in groups around a powerful idea, there were certain individuals within these churches, or enclaves, who determined what parts of the Jesus Story were going to be told - and how. This process of selecting and editing continued throughout the gathering, writing, and publishing of the gospels - and the Bible.
For several centuries after the original scriptures were committed to writing, a High Council of the Church determined yet one more time which doctrines and truths were to be included in the then-official Bible - and which would be 'unhealthy' or 'premature' to reveal to the masses. And there have been other holy scriptures as well - each placed in writing in moments of inspiration by otherwise ordinary men.
I have also downloaded the 'Sancta Missa' which is the Rites of the Priesthood. Becoming a priest is to take a sacrament like marriage. I have also learnt that a nun is a 'state' not a sacrament as not the same rights are attributed to her. When a priest takes his vows he promises to value those vows forever and be faithful to those vows forever. A nun postulates herself in front of the bishop, takes her vows and becomes the 'bride of Jesus, wears a ring with a cross on it and says she will be 'married to Jesus' forever. BUT, if any of these decide that they cannot be faithful to their vows anymore, they can leave and start new lives, live with partners of the opposite or same sex, have children and move on...
Whatever one does be it murder, adultery, thievery, rape, abuse etc etc. you are forgiven - but get married and realise that you have made a mistake and there is NO forgiveness.....
You can get separated or have your marriage annulled - no problem - a lot of people do anyway. What I personally find very offensive is having a marriage annulled - especially when there are children. Annulment means that technically that marriage never took place - that makes a whole mockery of the beautiful children born within that marriage. At least divorce says that the marriage was there but not a rebuttal of the marriage itself and the children born within that marriage......
What kind of God do we believe in? We are told by those who misinterpret the words of the scriptures: God gives us 'free will to choose' but you have to 'fear the judgement of the Lord' - YET what kind of choice is free when to choose one thing over the other brings condemnation? How is 'free will' free when it is not your will, but someone else's which must be done. Those who teach this make a hypocrite of God. These behaviours are the behaviours historically demanded of their subjects by monarchs – usually ego-maniacal, insecure, tyrannical monarchs at that. If we choose to believe in a God who somehow has such hurt feelings that if He doesn’t get what He wants He punishes us – then we truly are the Children of a Lesser God.
In my opinion Divorce should have been a vote in parliament - it has now gone to the streets. This is a civil right not a question of morals or what God wants - where is the morality in having old people who do not know whether it is Monday or Thursday or what year we are being taken out to vote? I am speaking from experience as I have two parents in their 90's that are at St Vincent de Paule. My father is in the dementia ward. He is in this ward because he was assessed and diagnosed that he could not make any decisions for himself any longer. But according to this govt, he is fit to vote. My mother barely recognised me today but again she is fit to vote. Is this what God wants?
Personally, I could have got a divorce or an annulment years ago - haven't done so probably because of laziness - Does this give me the right to stop somebody from getting married again?
Having Divorce does not mean one has to make use of it - I give money to all the causes there are mostly Hospice, Putinu, Dar il Providenza etc - you hope to God you will not need them - that doesn't mean we don't have them.
Tanya Borg-Cardona
I will be voting YES but for argument's sake here are some relevant points:
According to the Old Testament when Abraham and Sara remained barren, Sara complained 'Jehovah hath restrained me from bearing’ (Genesis 16:2), In her impatience she told Abraham to marry her maid, Hagar. Having more than one wife was acceptable in that culture….
The Church says that the Bible writers were witnesses to the life of Christ, and faithfully recorded what they heard and saw.
Correction: Most of the New Testament writers never met or saw Jesus in their lives. They lived many years after Jesus left the Earth. They wouldn't have known Jesus of Nazareth if they walked into him on the street.
But….The Bible writers were great believers and great historians. They took the stories which had been passed down to them and to their friends by others - elders - from elder to elder , until finally a written record was made. AND not everything of the Bible authors was included in the final document.
Already 'churches' had sprung up around the teachings of Jesus - and, as happens whenever and wherever people gather in groups around a powerful idea, there were certain individuals within these churches, or enclaves, who determined what parts of the Jesus Story were going to be told - and how. This process of selecting and editing continued throughout the gathering, writing, and publishing of the gospels - and the Bible.
For several centuries after the original scriptures were committed to writing, a High Council of the Church determined yet one more time which doctrines and truths were to be included in the then-official Bible - and which would be 'unhealthy' or 'premature' to reveal to the masses. And there have been other holy scriptures as well - each placed in writing in moments of inspiration by otherwise ordinary men.
I have also downloaded the 'Sancta Missa' which is the Rites of the Priesthood. Becoming a priest is to take a sacrament like marriage. I have also learnt that a nun is a 'state' not a sacrament as not the same rights are attributed to her. When a priest takes his vows he promises to value those vows forever and be faithful to those vows forever. A nun postulates herself in front of the bishop, takes her vows and becomes the 'bride of Jesus, wears a ring with a cross on it and says she will be 'married to Jesus' forever. BUT, if any of these decide that they cannot be faithful to their vows anymore, they can leave and start new lives, live with partners of the opposite or same sex, have children and move on...
Whatever one does be it murder, adultery, thievery, rape, abuse etc etc. you are forgiven - but get married and realise that you have made a mistake and there is NO forgiveness.....
You can get separated or have your marriage annulled - no problem - a lot of people do anyway. What I personally find very offensive is having a marriage annulled - especially when there are children. Annulment means that technically that marriage never took place - that makes a whole mockery of the beautiful children born within that marriage. At least divorce says that the marriage was there but not a rebuttal of the marriage itself and the children born within that marriage......
What kind of God do we believe in? We are told by those who misinterpret the words of the scriptures: God gives us 'free will to choose' but you have to 'fear the judgement of the Lord' - YET what kind of choice is free when to choose one thing over the other brings condemnation? How is 'free will' free when it is not your will, but someone else's which must be done. Those who teach this make a hypocrite of God. These behaviours are the behaviours historically demanded of their subjects by monarchs – usually ego-maniacal, insecure, tyrannical monarchs at that. If we choose to believe in a God who somehow has such hurt feelings that if He doesn’t get what He wants He punishes us – then we truly are the Children of a Lesser God.
In my opinion Divorce should have been a vote in parliament - it has now gone to the streets. This is a civil right not a question of morals or what God wants - where is the morality in having old people who do not know whether it is Monday or Thursday or what year we are being taken out to vote? I am speaking from experience as I have two parents in their 90's that are at St Vincent de Paule. My father is in the dementia ward. He is in this ward because he was assessed and diagnosed that he could not make any decisions for himself any longer. But according to this govt, he is fit to vote. My mother barely recognised me today but again she is fit to vote. Is this what God wants?
Personally, I could have got a divorce or an annulment years ago - haven't done so probably because of laziness - Does this give me the right to stop somebody from getting married again?
Having Divorce does not mean one has to make use of it - I give money to all the causes there are mostly Hospice, Putinu, Dar il Providenza etc - you hope to God you will not need them - that doesn't mean we don't have them.
Tanya Borg-Cardona
I will be voting YES but for argument's sake here are some relevant points:
According to the Old Testament when Abraham and Sara remained barren, Sara complained 'Jehovah hath restrained me from bearing’ (Genesis 16:2), In her impatience she told Abraham to marry her maid, Hagar. Having more than one wife was acceptable in that culture….
The Church says that the Bible writers were witnesses to the life of Christ, and faithfully recorded what they heard and saw.
Correction: Most of the New Testament writers never met or saw Jesus in their lives. They lived many years after Jesus left the Earth. They wouldn't have known Jesus of Nazareth if they walked into him on the street.
But….The Bible writers were great believers and great historians. They took the stories which had been passed down to them and to their friends by others - elders - from elder to elder , until finally a written record was made. AND not everything of the Bible authors was included in the final document.
Already 'churches' had sprung up around the teachings of Jesus - and, as happens whenever and wherever people gather in groups around a powerful idea, there were certain individuals within these churches, or enclaves, who determined what parts of the Jesus Story were going to be told - and how. This process of selecting and editing continued throughout the gathering, writing, and publishing of the gospels - and the Bible.
For several centuries after the original scriptures were committed to writing, a High Council of the Church determined yet one more time which doctrines and truths were to be included in the then-official Bible - and which would be 'unhealthy' or 'premature' to reveal to the masses. And there have been other holy scriptures as well - each placed in writing in moments of inspiration by otherwise ordinary men.
I have also downloaded the 'Sancta Missa' which is the Rites of the Priesthood. Becoming a priest is to take a sacrament like marriage. I have also learnt that a nun is a 'state' not a sacrament as not the same rights are attributed to her. When a priest takes his vows he promises to value those vows forever and be faithful to those vows forever. A nun postulates herself in front of the bishop, takes her vows and becomes the 'bride of Jesus, wears a ring with a cross on it and says she will be 'married to Jesus' forever. BUT, if any of these decide that they cannot be faithful to their vows anymore, they can leave and start new lives, live with partners of the opposite or same sex, have children and move on...
Whatever one does be it murder, adultery, thievery, rape, abuse etc etc. you are forgiven - but get married and realise that you have made a mistake and there is NO forgiveness.....
You can get separated or have your marriage annulled - no problem - a lot of people do anyway. What I personally find very offensive is having a marriage annulled - especially when there are children. Annulment means that technically that marriage never took place - that makes a whole mockery of the beautiful children born within that marriage. At least divorce says that the marriage was there but not a rebuttal of the marriage itself and the children born within that marriage......
What kind of God do we believe in? We are told by those who misinterpret the words of the scriptures: God gives us 'free will to choose' but you have to 'fear the judgement of the Lord' - YET what kind of choice is free when to choose one thing over the other brings condemnation? How is 'free will' free when it is not your will, but someone else's which must be done. Those who teach this make a hypocrite of God. These behaviours are the behaviours historically demanded of their subjects by monarchs – usually ego-maniacal, insecure, tyrannical monarchs at that. If we choose to believe in a God who somehow has such hurt feelings that if He doesn’t get what He wants He punishes us – then we truly are the Children of a Lesser God.
In my opinion Divorce should have been a vote in parliament - it has now gone to the streets. This is a civil right not a question of morals or what God wants - where is the morality in having old people who do not know whether it is Monday or Thursday or what year we are being taken out to vote? I am speaking from experience as I have two parents in their 90's that are at St Vincent de Paule. My father is in the dementia ward. He is in this ward because he was assessed and diagnosed that he could not make any decisions for himself any longer. But according to this govt, he is fit to vote. My mother barely recognised me today but again she is fit to vote. Is this what God wants?
Personally, I could have got a divorce or an annulment years ago - haven't done so probably because of laziness - Does this give me the right to stop somebody from getting married again?
Having Divorce does not mean one has to make use of it - I give money to all the causes there are mostly Hospice, Putinu, Dar il Providenza etc - you hope to God you will not need them - that doesn't mean we don't have them.
Tanya Borg-Cardona
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Prosit Saviour!
Log on:
https://mazzun.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/top-10-tal-mazzun-il-kwotazzjonijiet-li-dahhquna-ujew-bikkewna/
Grzegorz Tomski •
Prosit.
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Well done