Priest tells anti-divorce activists: after divorce, it's abortion and euthanasia

Zwieg bla Divorzju holds rally with MPs Carmelo Abela, Edwin Vassallo, Marie-Louise Coleiro Preca and Charlo Bonnici.

Nationalist MP Edwin Vassallo today called on the anti-divorce movement to become a ‘movement for the family and children’.

“We need to start working, with the government and Church… it’s been a grace from God for us to realise what we are voting for here. It’s not about the 28 May decision only.”

His comments were made at a business breakfast organised by anti-divorce movement Zwieg Bla Divorzju for some 100 supporters at the San Gorg Corinthia.

But it was Fr Ang Seychell, the Zejtun priest, who stirred the room when he said that a Zejtun congregation had walked out of the church when a priest described pro-divorce exponents as ‘pulli-cinelli’.

“They thought he said purcinelli (clowns)… and they walked out. Well, this is nothing like the stuff we had in the 1960s,” Seychell said, referring to the excommunication of Labour activists. “But still, it’s not that this kind of thing should be happening today.”

Seychell also warned his audience that after the 28 May referendum, “the next challenge would be warding off abortion and euthanasia, and even same-sex marriages.”

Labour MP Marie-Louise Coleiro Preca latched on to comments by Vassallo and Seychell. “We’ve opened our eyes to what exists in our country... as MPs we hope we can work to strengthen the family. Only the Lord can be witness, but our motion for a committee of the family was only inspired by our love for the family.”

“Children are not votes, but they have no voice either. If it isn’t us MPs to stand up for them, they will lose out even more,” Coleiro Preca said.

The president of the Church’s Cana movement Anna Vella gave a rallying call to supporters to exhort others to vote against the introduction of the divorce bill on the 28 May referendum.

Vella said Zwieg Bla Divorzju was the ‘no’ movement but it was also a positive movement. “We see divorce as something contagious. As foreign studies prove, divorce introduces a mentality of divorce. When people are given the choice to ‘fight or flight’, they escape the challenges of marriage.”

“I believe that whoever gets married now will grow up with this mentality. I feel it’s being imposed upon me, my children, and whoever will be getting married.”

She said divorce would not solve the problem of domestic violence and that Maltese society should be concentrating on improving measures to strengthen the family. “Why should we be like other countries and destroy something that is good in Maltese society?”

Zwieg Bla Divorzju chairperson Andre Camilleri said the movement would be providing transport for the elderly and the disabled for the referendum.

Labour MP Carmelo Abela said that with or without divorce, problems in families would remain. “That is why some MPs and myself have filed a motion to have a parliamentary committee for the family set-up, one that would focus uniquely on family issues – even more than the present social affairs committee.”

Lawyer Dr Bernard Grech also exhorted supporters to consider children. “Let’s do what our MPs did not stand up to be counted for. Let’s defend our children.”

Nationalist MP Charlo Bonnici attacked the content of the referendum question, saying the process that brought the referendum had been accelerated, but added that the result would have to be respected.

“The first effects of this decision will be felt by children, who will be damaged forever as foreign studies confirm,” Bonnici said referring to an Australian study reported in Monday’s In-Nazzjon, the PN organ.

He also asked how women could vote for divorce. “Studies show that wherever divorce is introduced, problems increase, single mothers increase, and marital breakdowns increase.”

He said with half the female population not working, it will be close to impossible for wives to depend on the maintenance paid by their divorced husbands.

“My appeal to you is that before we vote, we ask ourselves what benefit will divorce bring to those whom we love – let’s vote according to our conscience.”

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L-ahwa nahseb li qieghdin tagglu fil kummenti taghkhom ghax jekk taqra l-ahbar kif inhi miktuba ma kienx Dun Ang li kien qieghed jaghmel dik lomelija. "when a prieist described th pro-divorce........" Xorta ghalija ghamel farsa imma nahseb li ma kienx Dun Ang.
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Kids will always notice and feel the detachment of their parents for one and other, They can sense hostility and will internalize it. They will be given the unspoken message that, lack of showing affection, etc. are normal aspects of a relationship or marriage.and so the cycle goes on as they grow up and be in the same predicament themselves , when a couple stay in a marriage or under the same roof for their own reasons or the kids with no show of love for one another and no affection in the home is very damaging for the kids ,Kids notice and suffer in silence! but do not underestimate what they are thinking and feeling. @bejn il-linji 'Jien lil uliedi nixtieqilhom zwieg dejjiemi' bejn il-linji we all wish same for our kids and any member of our family and anyone else for that matter but you also have to realistic and realize that no one knows the future and no one knows whats around the corners as we travel on our life's journey ! also be a little compassionate to others who have different needs to you after all that is the real value of Christianity , or shall i say have some TOLERANCE.
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They thought the priest said purcinelli whereas he called them pullicinelli...? LOL ! Maybe the pun was intentional but then again it doesn't matter..
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They thought the priest said purcinelli whereas he called them pullicinelli...? LOL ! Maybe the pun was intentional but then again it doesn't matter..
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HASS <---- ----> BASS
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These people must be booking a seat on front row to heaven. HOW PATHETIC. These guys dont have brains , only cobwebs, and if they think that this is not going to effect their post in parliament, THEY ARE MISTAKEN!!!!!!!
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Joseph Sant
Sur "bejn il-linji" - jekk joghgbok tista' tghidilna b'liema awtorita' thoss li ghandek tippontifika dwar dak li "ma jghoddx ghalina". Li kieku tkellimt fis-singular kieku kien ikollok mitt elf ragun, imma la darba ghazilt li titkellem fil-plural allura qed tinkludi lili wkoll fil-bicca. Nitolbok tkun tant gentili illi tippermettili niddeciedi jien x'jghodd u ma jghoddx ghaliha. U biex tkun taf ukoll, jien ghalhekk ser nivvota IVA fir-referendum. Jien m'ghandix bzonn id-divorzju, u ghall-grazzja tal-hanin Alla lanqas uliedi m'ghandhom bzonnu imma ghall-grazzja tal-hanin Alla wkoll jien qatt mhu ser nazzarda nimponi fuq haddiehor u nghidlu jien x'jghodd u ma jghoddx ghalih. Grazzi tal-attenzjoni.
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Naa Obinna
To all those who spoke at the business breakfast - FOR GOD'S SAKE STICK YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND!!!!
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Issa kumment lil " bejn il-linji " li qal li se jivvota lE ghax lil uliedu jixtieqilhom " zwieg dejjiemi " Min ma jixtieqx dan lil uliedu ? Izda bejn li tixtieq u r-realta tal-hajja gieli jkun hemm bahar jaqsam ! U jekk, Alla hares qatt, xi hadd minn uliedek jitkissirlu z-zwieg, xi tridhom jaghmlu IPOGGU, jew JIBQGHU WAHEDHOM GHAL GHOMORHOM ?? Mhux ahjar ikollhom cans iehor fil-hajja jekk jergghu jiltaqghu ma persuna li tkun thobbhom , li jkunu jistghu jergghu jizzewgu u b'hek ikollhom ferm aktar stabilita f'hajjithom. U jekk ikollhom it-tfal, dawn ma jitwieldux barra z-zwieg ?
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Se jkolli nerga nikkummenta dwar dak li qal Dun Ang Seychell waqt l-attivita li ghamlu tal-LE illum. Skond il-Malta Today, Dun Ang qal li n-nies telqu il-barra mil-knisja waqt l-omelija tieghu, ghax kien qal li dawk li qed imexxu il-moviment IVA huma " pulcinelli " Skond ir-rapport tal-istess Malta Today in-nies telqu l-barra mil-knisja meta Dun Ang qalilhom li min se jmur jivvota IVA ma kellux jistenna li l-ghada ikmur il-knisja u jitqarben, Jigifieri irid icahhadhom mis-sagrament tat-tqarbin. Issa sirt naf ukoll li Dun Ang qal ukoll li wara d-divorzju jigu l-abort u l-ewtanasja ! DAN GIDEB DUN ANG ! U qed tghid dawn l-affarijeit biex tbezza n-nies. Qatt ma kont nemmen li Dun Ang se jasal s'hawn ! Liid-deputati Marie Louise Coleiro u carmelo Abela nistaqsihom : temmnu allura li jekk jidhol id-divorzju responsabbli, iz-zwieg taghkhom se jitkisser ? Jekk ma tahsbux dan, ghaliex qeghdin tahsbu li z-zwieg ta' haddiehor li ghandhom zwieg hieni u sod, bhal ma nemmen li hu taghhom, se jitkisser ?? Dan ifisser li inthom stess ma temmnux dak li l-moviment tal-LE - il-moviment taghkhom,- qieghed jghid kulljum ! Il-mexxej taghkhom, Dr. Joseph muscat qal car u tond li sa llum ghadu ma sema lil hadd minnkom tal-LE tghatu soluzzjoni ghal dawk li jitkissrilhom iz-zwieg taghhom . Ghandkhom kuragg tghidulu inthom, spiss tkunu hdejh ! Eddy privitera
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THE SKY IS FALLING DOWN!!! THE SKY IS FALLING DOWN!!!
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Does anyone believe this shit?
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Euthanasia? Now THERE is a good idea and I'm pretty sure who I'd like to start on! Damn the retarded thinking of the Vatican and it's minions.
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Bonnici, Vassallo, Coleiro Preca and Abela make my stomach churn in disgust! They are still living in the Middle Ages and want to impose their cobwebbed beliefs on us
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Din ma ghandu x'jaqsam xejn ahmar u blu. Jekk allahares hawn izjed iva milli le l-hodor imorru tajjeb ghal voti. Kellimt lil xi hadd PL u kien car li hu favur IVA imma ma impona u lanqas biss dahal fil-kredu. Jien l-uniku haga li qed nara u nisma fejn jidhol l-IVA ma sibt l-ebda argument li kkonvincieni. Jien lil uliedi nixtieqilhom zwieg dejjiemi u ser nivvota LE. U La ghandu x'jaqsam partit ghax ahmar kont u ahmar ghadni ...minn dawk ta l-azzar... la tidhol knisja ghax dan jghodd bhala ligi civili..pero ghandha dritt tesprimi ruhha hi u kull nisrani ghax dawn cittadini...u l-izjed li ser nivvota le hu ghax nemmen li Malta ghandha biex thossha mkabbra li ma dahhalniex la d-divorzju la l-abort la zwieg bejn l-istess sessi u lanqas indahhlu xejn li ma jghodd ghalina.
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"Nationalist MP Edwin Vassallo today called on the anti-divorce movement to become a ‘movement for the family and children’." . That would require them to completely become the opposite of what they are now: a movement that is willing to sell family and children to save the church's face.
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AND AS MISS MAUDIE SAID "BUT SOMETIMES THE BIBLE IN THE HAND OF ONE MAN IS WORSE THAT A WHISKY BOTTLE IN THE HAND OF ANOTHER
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Nixtieq naghmel kumment iehor dirett lejn iz-zewg deputati laburisti. Nispera li fehmu sewwa x'qal Edwin vassalo, li irid li anke wara r-referendum, il-moviment tal-LE jibda jahdem mal-gvern u mal-Knisja, " u mhux biss ghad-decizzjoni tat-28 ta' Mejju.." ! Fhimtuh ? Jigifieri mohhom biex juzaw dan ir-referendum bhala pjattaforma ghal-elezzjoni generali - u INTHOM QEGHDIN TIDHLU FIN-NASSA TAL-PN ! X'se tghidulhom wara r-referendum lill-partitarji laburisti ?? Eddy privitera
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Lil Dun Ang Seychell nghidlu li bhal ma ghamel zball kbir fis-snin Sittin meta ma kienx jghati assoluzzjoni lill.laburisti ghax kienu jghidu li se jivvutaw Labour, tant hu hekk li l-Arcisqof Mercieca talab mahfra tal-izbalji li kienet ghamlet il-Knisja u s-sacerdoti, bhal Dun Ang, qieghed jaghmel l-istess zball illum meta bi kliemu fil-Knisja taz-Zejtun lill-"fidili" qalilhom li min minnhom kien se jmur jivvota IVA, l-ghada tar-referendum ma kellhomx jistennew li jmorru u jitqarbnu !! L-istess TWERWIR li ilu sentejn ghaddej bihom kull meta kiteb dwear id-divorzju. U ghamel l-istess meta kont hadt sehem mieghu f'dibattitu fuq Calypso TV. Meta se titghallem li aktyar qieghed taghmel hsara lill-Knisja milli gid b'dak li qed tghid ? dak mhux " taghlim " izda TWERWIR ! lid-depuitati laburisti li marru f'dik l-okkazzjoni ma tal-LE infakkarhom ghal darba ohra, li minn ghandhom in-nies jistennew li ma jhallux il-valuri personali taghhom ixekkluhom mid-dmir taghhom lejn il-poplu KOLLU specjalment dawk li qeghdin ibatu minhabba t-tifrik taz-zwieg taghhom. U l-uniku cans li jistghu jergghu jibdew hajja gdida hi l-ligi tad-divorzju. Waqt li inthom qed tisfurzawhom IPOGGU !
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We don’t need sanctification We don't need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the churches Preacher leave divorce alone Hey preacher leave divorce alone All in all it’s just another brick in the wall All in all you're just another brick in the wall We don't need cohabitation We don't need no thought control No dark sarcasm on the media Premier leave divorce alone Hey premier leave divorce alone All in all it’s just another brick in the wall All in all you're just another brick in the wall We don't need indoctrination We don't need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the boardroom Director leave divorce alone Hey director leave divorce alone All in all it’s just another brick in the wall All in all you're just another brick in the wall
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I would have done the same (walk out of church) ... problem is that I believe that most of those who left will not be going in again (at least for a while)! JM has already hinted out about this grave situation where with this attitude, whatever the result would be, the main loser in this would be the Maltese church. I strongly believe this will probably end up in more civil marriages.
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I believe the matter would have been much simpler if the introduction of divorce mechanism in Malta were to be solely for the benefit of those who married civilly but not applicxable to those who married in church.
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Back to the future. Anqas temmen kemm għad hawn imħuħ fid-dlam hawn Malta. Min kellu jobsor li xi ħadd bħal Marie Louise Coleiro kella tieħu falza stikka papali bħal din?