‘More of the same’ dominates deputy leader debate

Expectations of a high-profile showdown fizzle out as deputy leaders' performance fails to break new ground.

PN deputy leader Simon Busutil and Labour's Louis Grech.
PN deputy leader Simon Busutil and Labour's Louis Grech.

Considering the media hype leading to this evening's 'deputy leader's debate' on TVM - originally intended just to be a standard Dissett interview with Labour's Louis Grech, but which had to change format to accommodate Simon Busuttil after much brouhaha involving the Broadcasting Authority - expectations of a high-profile showdown fizzled out very quickly into the event itself.

Much of the hour-long exchange was rooted firmly in the notion that Grech and Busuttil, both MEPs, had brought to the table a new and more 'European' way of doing of politics. But while the overall tone of the debate was considerably calmer and more polite than usual, in practice the only discernable difference was one of style, not of substance at all.

For instance: neither resorted to the usual tactic of simply shouting the other down, but there were still interruptions galore. Busuttil, for one, made it hard for his counterpart to get a word in edgewise... leaving an often visibly frustrated Grech to waste much of his allotted airtime complaining about the lack of fair play.

Equally evident were all the usual barrel-scraping gimmicks and techniques we have come to expect from such televised debates - perhaps reaching their lowest ebb when Busuttil read out loud a series of quotes regarding Labour's former attitudes towards the European Union...for all the world as if we were on the eve of the 2004 election, and not 2013 at all.

But the biggest let-down (for those who were expecting a genuine change in approach) concerned the relevance of what was actually said during the debate. Veteran TVM presenter Reno Bugeja may have been at his usual, level-headed best - certainly he cannot be blamed for asking his guests any vague or irrelevant questions - but not even the most direct line of questioning (eg. "Yes but what will you actually DO if elected?") managed to elicit anything resembling a concrete and coherent answer from either Grech or Busuttil.

As expected, Louis Grech was the more guilty party in this regard. For while Busuttil did at least have a standard retort to fall back on ("We've already presented our Budget, so you know where you stand with us"), Grech proved immensely effective at diagnosing the myriad flaws of the current administration - the mismanagement, the piecemeal approach to problems, the fiascos, the lack of clear policy direction on so many issues, starting with energy, etc... but in the end, viewers were left absolutely none the wiser regarding the Labour Party's own proposed solutions for any of the above.

Instead, all we got was a standard "wait and see" reply: hardly satisfactory, given the sheer proximity of the election.

Besides, on the rare moments when he was left free to talk uninterrupted - and thus choose for himself the battle terrain - Grech proved reluctant to say anything worth reporting. For instance, when talk turned to Air Malta - as it did fairly frequently - the former chairman of the national airline limited his contribution only to say: "if you like we will discuss that in another programme, just you and I...": adding that on this subject alone, he had perhaps more insider knowledge than others.

All well and good, but... why was it not possible to talk about the same subject in slightly lesser detail yesterday? Inevitably, one gets the impression that Louis Grech was simply unprepared or unwilling to talk about it: which is not the sort of depth one expects from a European approach to such matters.

Then there were contradictions of simply Biblical proportions on either side. After accusing Grech of 'inconsistency', Busuttil went on to radically reinvent his own party's former positions on a number of issues. Incredibly, he even cited the introduction of low-cost airlines as one of the feathers in the PN's cap... quite forgetting that the Nationalist government had actually resisted this development tooth and nail for almost a decade, and only very grudgingly accepted their introduction under intense pressure from the tourism lobby.

But such was the reluctance of either deputy leader to provide concrete details about on his own party's proposals, that the bulk of the discussion was limited largely to the standard, ritual exchange of accusations and calculated barbs (though admittedly couched in far less aggressive terms than usual).

This was clearly more familiar territory for Busuttil, who often successfully put his opposite number on the defensive: about his own election at the expense of Anglu Farrugia (who now seems to have become a folk-hero for the Nationalists, of all things), and also about the Labour Party's highly dubious track record on both employment and matters concerning human rights.

Grech may have been somewhat less eloquent at this level of the debate - often his sentences trailed away into incoherent mumbles - but he did give as good as he got in return. At one point, he turned the tables onto Busuttil over his own party's much more consequential internal problems... a line of attack which culminated in what was arguably the strongest line of the evening: "Your government has spent the past year and a half in denial". (To which Busuttil, it must be said, had no answer to give.)

But ultimately, Louis Grech was on far safer and more comfortable territory when he tried to strike a more conciliatory tone. Viewers of either political hue will no doubt have sympathised with his claim that people are simply fed up with divisive, confrontational politics. Many would have also welcomed his appeal for greater impartiality in our general approach to such matters: it cannot be, he argued, that we still cling to the old view that "everything one side does is automatically right", and vice versa.

And even if his delivery was not quite up to the word-perfect standard of Busuttil, the total upshot was that Grech did come across as the more sincere of the two speakers yesterday.

But sincerity, on its own, is no substitute for clarity of vision. And neither provided this yesterday. Matters came to a head when Bugeja paused the programme to allow AD's Carmel Cacopardo to ask a couple of generic questions. Again, these were nothing if not direct: what is either party's policy of drug decriminalisation, and illegal construction of the Armier variety (to name but two)?

Neither question received an answer. The part about drugs was simply ignored by both sides; and when it came to Armier, Busuttil seemed to supply two totally conflicting answers at once. He started by insisting that ALL illegal buildings must be removed... yet immediately qualified that with an argument that can be translated from Newspeak as 'some illegal buildings are more equal than others'... only without making it clear precisely on what grounds (all he would say is 'it depends on the circumstances').

Ultimately, however, what we were left with was what both deputy leaders claimed they would remove from their parties' rhetoric: buzzwords and empty catchphrases, or as Louis Grech repeatedly put it ... 'more of the same'.

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@fenea Mhux Louis Grech biss qed tghid li l-PN se jkollu l-kontijiet tal-W&E wara l-elezzjoni jekk jerga' jitla', imma l-EU. Issa jekk it-tnejn qed jigdbu ghidli int.... U l-proposti li ghandu l-LP fuq il-kontijiet huma konkreti u ppruvati diga, jaghmlu inqas hsara fuq il-bniedem, l-ambjent u l-but.
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SKOND LOUIS GRECH IL PN SE JKOLLU JGHOLLI ID DAWL U L-ILMA BIEX INAQQAS ID DEFICIT. ALLURA BL-ISTESS ARGUMENT JEKK IL PL INAQQAS ID DAWL U L-ILMA SE JZID ID DEFICIT. SEWWA QALLU SIMON IL PL MHUX KONSISTENTI U BLA DIREZZJONI.
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An excellent analysis Raphael, with which I am in complete agreement. The below comments clearly emphasise the need for more "Where's the beef" debates, than "MEPs' coffee break" soft talk! Perhaps it is yet to come. I certainly hope so! Considering the doldrums the Maltese economy is really in, and the fiscal storm brewing on the Continent, we need positive measures to rescue us from all the make belief swirling around the media.
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A rather dull debate for both speakers were unwilling to move away from defensive set pieces. On the surface I would rate it as a boring goalless draw. However looking beyond the anodized surface one would realize that they were both hankering for the centrist floating voter. Therefore one would add that they were projecting much of the same slightly right of centre image. At most we can think of them as two branches of the same franchise brand where the only difference is the image they project to convince us who of them we believe will ultimately manage best the same identical government program . None of the issues which are afflicting the nation were really brought into focus. Goodbye to any sort of differentiated ideology of previous party administrations whether of the leftist type under dom or kmb or the populist christian values under efa. I am afraid it is all local spin and anodyne soundbites now of pragmatism and when it comes to real political direction and ideology we have abdicated that to what the EU will promote and decide.
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Can we go back to not giving a RAT'S ASS who the deputy leader is? Why not let Gonzi come and show his face and fake smiles and tell us about the total failure his stolen mandate has been? And anyways - both parties have made it clear that everyone has to obey the leader. PN barred Franco Debono from contesting the election and PL passed a resolution to fine 15,000 euroes to any MP voting against the party. So let the two leader come and say what they plan to do with the country and how many more years we have to put up with them.
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All that Simon and co. can do is harp on the past. Now about about their future plans, have we heard something about them? They criticize Labour, yet the latter has had an array of wide consultations with the public and private organizations culminating in the party's congress. And by the way, we have just heard that the GonziPN manifesto is still in the drafting stage. Now, returning to the past let me remind you of some of the PN mischiefs. Do you remember when Mintoff started diplomatic relations with China and Simon's beloved PN scaremongering the Maltese people (and indeed the European and US press) that Malta is letting the 'Red Dragon' from the back door. Nowadays, and rightly so, trade delegations go to and fro to China to strike business deals. Do you remember the infamous Malta file damaging Malta's reputation in international fora? Do you remember the PN exhorting German entrepreneurs not to invest in Malta and take their investment away from the Islands? And Gaddafi?- Simon's leader photographed embracing him just before the Libyan revolution erupted. The PL should mention these to unmask the PN's crass hypocrisy.
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All that Simon and co. can do is harp on the past. Now about about their future plans, have we heard something about them? They criticize Labour, yet the latter has had an array of wide consultations with the public and private organizations culminating in the party's congress. And by the way, we have just heard that the GonziPN manifesto is still in the drafting stage. Now, returning to the past let me remind you of some of the PN mischiefs. Do you remember when Mintoff started diplomatic relations with China and Simon's beloved PN scaremongering the Maltese people (and indeed the European and US press) that Malta is letting the 'Red Dragon' from the back door. Nowadays, and rightly so, trade delegations go to and fro to China to strike business deals. Do you remember the infamous Malta file damaging Malta's reputation in international fora? Do you remember the PN exhorting German entrepreneurs not to invest in Malta and take their investment away from the Islands? And Gaddafi?- Simon's leader photographed embracing him just before the Libyan revolution erupted. The PL should mention these to unmask the PN's crass hypocracy.
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L-ewwel ħaġa Dr.Busuttil wera li ma kienx komdu bl'andament tad-diskussjoni , għax beda jinterrompi lill Louis Grech u ma jħalliħx jagħmel l-argumenti tiegħu . It-tieni ħaġa rigward il-mediċina li tkun out of stock , Dr Busuttil qal li għawn mal-75,000 li jieħdu il-mediċini b'xejn u meta jkun hemm xi mediċina li tkun out of stock , weru li jkun hemm persuna li ma tkunx qed tinqeda , izda l-oħrajn kollha jkunu qed jinqdew . Sur għaref , jekk ikun hemm midiċina waħda li tkun out of stock jintlaqtu dawk kollha li jkunu jieħdu dik it-tip ta' mediċina u mhux persuna waħda . Aħseb u ara jekk ikun hemm aktar min mediċina waħda li tkun out of stock kemm jintlaqtu aktar nies , Dr.Busuttil . Din rigward waħda biss għax hemm ruxxmata affarijiet oħra fuqhiex wieħed jista jikkummenta , izda għallum nieqaf hawn .
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It was a good debate - civil and without an overly aggressive tone. It struck me that now we are discussing economic matters - in the past we were discussing fundamental issues such as the state of democracy in our country. That is the difference between the two parties.
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PN electoral program still being written? Remember the hullabaloo about PL's programs by GonziPN's henchman Mr Norman Vella of the supposedly neutral Public Broadcasting Service? Is Dr Simon Busutill-of defend GonziPN at the Grocer's fame- lost in writing it? We all know what the slogans for the 'more of the same' party is going to be: jobs health and education which for many people on the ground read: precarious wages... below the minimum wages jobs,queues in the hospital corridors; and one third of our school leaving kids without any certificates!
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One thing is for sure that the tv presenter wasn't biased. For a wider debate they need double time to discuss the main issues. As we all could see, Simon explained his answers with other details that sometimes he deviated from the subject.The only reason was to make more propaganda for his party and take from the time of the opponent. One other thing that i we can't believe is that at the end Simon tried to fool us by saying he is new in politics and he will bring change. How can we take him seriously when we find out that he started working as an activist in the PN/government since mid 1990's.This states that he was part of the mess that we have been going through these last 15 years especially. He had the chance to change what was going wrong but he stayed silent. He is more than the same.
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Simon Busuttil was evidently uncomfortable - it showed when he never ceased to interrupt, something which he never usually does. Louis Grech mad it a point never to interrupt, and was the calmer of the two, which says a lot considering that Simon is known for his calmness in a debate. And Simon's usual tactic of putting his adversary on the defensive failed miserably, driving him to exalt his party's achievements, of all things, in health, conveniently forgetting queues for operations, medicines out of stock, etc., and to the now stale yarn of the 20,000 employment places created. I would give this round to Louis.
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I watched the debate for the first half hour and got fade up to be honest. How many times we heard the issues discussed.....ad nauseam. I think the electorate is just tired as we have been on electoral mode since last year. This debate came at a bad moment because the manifesto of both parties will be revealed (I hope) next week so both Grech and Busuttil were not committing themselves to reveal any new strategies. This debate it was a waste of time. I think that the majority of the electorate has already made up their minds to whom they vote and simply the coming electoral campaign will be an extension of the Christmas panto.
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Constant interruption of one's opponent when latter is trying to explain a point to viewers,or trying to appear humble by apologising for this and that,is nothing more than rehearsed tactics.Please respect our intelligence.
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rajt d-dibattitu fuq dissett! l-ewwel haga l-prezentatur kien eccelenti u fair. Simon bhal bqijja tal pn ha l-attitudni li ' ibzaw mill labour ax lil min ma doqtuhx ma tistawx tavdawh!' Pero meta gie mafuz minn grech fuq x'se jamlu fuq d-dawl u ilma u pprova jdawwara fuq il-pl u f'opinjoni tieghi ma rnexxielux. interrompa hafna lil grech! pero grech hareg vera tajjeb fuq il-kritika ta l-arriva, powestation ta delimara. simon pprova jisvijja meta semma lil anglu fuq il-flop tal-ilma. fuq il-boathouses simon kif qal l-artiklu simon wiegeb b'mod kontradittorju al-ahhar. grech seta kien naqra aktar aggrassiv pero mar tajjeb.
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rajt d-dibattitu fuq dissett! l-ewwel haga l-prezentatur kien eccelenti u fair. Simon bhal bqijja tal pn ha l-attitudni li ' ibzaw mill labour ax lil min ma doqtuhx ma tistawx tavdawh!' Pero meta gie mafuz minn grech fuq x'se jamlu fuq d-dawl u ilma u pprova jdawwara fuq il-pl u f'opinjoni tieghi ma rnexxielux. interrompa hafna lil grech! pero grech hareg vera tajjeb fuq il-kritika ta l-arriva, powestation ta delimara. simon pprova jisvijja meta semma lil anglu fuq il-flop tal-ilma. fuq il-boathouses simon kif qal l-artiklu simon wiegeb b'mod kontradittorju al-ahhar. grech seta kien naqra aktar aggrassiv pero mar tajjeb.
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Both were fishing for the votes, noting else.Only Carmel Cocopardo was talking about whats good for our islands,and both of them try to match with him, but both of tham fail.
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Ghadni kif segwejt id dibattitu tal lejla bejn Lous Grech u Simon Busuttill hareg car li Simon kien Aroganti il hin kollu ghax beda il hin kollu jinterronpi pero jien nixtieq najt lil Simon illi il Popplu kollu rah u semaw u min dan id dibattitu harget sentenza li Simon rebah il premju ghal hin ta kollu tainterruptions galore by Simon
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A stable and focused Louis discussed issues with one impish elf called Simon.