Pullicino Orlando lashes out at Cachia Caruana

Pullicino Orlando insists he would have voted against Cachia Caruana he had acted in the same “cowardly and devious” way against another government MP.

Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando was interviewed by Reno Bugeja on TVM
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando was interviewed by Reno Bugeja on TVM

During tonight's discussion programme Dissett broadcast on TVM, Nationalist MPs Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando, Franco Debono and Jesmond Mugliett  who were this week "condemned" by the PN executive council for voting against the government in parliament, vehemently defended their positions.

Meanwhile, Nationalist backbencher Franco Debono said that the Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi had nothing against him contesting the next general election but added that he will take a decision when the time is ripe. Debono however said that the final decision lays with the party's executive.

Pullicino Orlando voted in favour of a motion that called for the resignation of Malta's permanent representative to the EU Richard Cachia Caruana, while Mugliett abstained on this motion.

The MP said that if the government had taken a vote in Parlaiment over the Partnership for Peace membership instead of doing it behind Parliament's back it would have received the full backing of both parties.

A spirited Pullicino Orlando said that if Cachia Caruana "took umbrage at the outline permit I obtained for the nightclub in Mistra, many other should have taken umbrage at Cachia Caruana's permit for a swimming pool in Mdina which is an area of archaeological importance. He was involved in a more controversial Mepa cases then the Mistra case."

"I was, am and will remain a "bicca" MP but it is laughable to hear Cachia Caruana speak as if he was a common civil servant or a "bicca" ambassador...if we want to speak about political influence or trading in influence we should see who holds the real political influence in this country."

Asked whether he had voted for the motion because of personal reasons, the MP said that if Cachia Caruana had acted in the same "cowardly and devious" way against another government MP he would have voted against Cachia Caruana who has "proven that he does not respect democracy."

He also said that PN officials were informed of former Labour leader Alfred Sant's intentions to attack Pullicino Orlando before the 2008 election before the attack happened and Cachia Caruana had approached Pullicino Orlando and told him that Sant must be portrayed "as a bully."

Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando stood by his claims that up to 10 government MPs backed the Opposition motion calling for the resignation of Richard Cachia Caruana and added that one MP expressed a desire to vote for the Opposition's motion in the presence of other persons.

Asked why none of the 10 MPs voted with him, Pullicino Orlando repeated that these MPs had informed him that they supported the motion and one MP had done so in front of two witnesses.

Pullicino Orlando said that he remains a Nationalist MP and "feels comfortable" being a government MP.

The MP also said that there were no personal reasons behind his decision to vote for the motion "otherwise I would not have invited Cachia Caruana in my own house. I would never invite anyone I hold any kind of animosity against."

On the PN executive condemnation, the Zebbug MP shed doubts on the democratic credentials of the Nationalist Party and said that neither he nor Muglett and Debono were informed of the meeting. He added that such condemnations "only happen in totalitarian countries."

Pullicino Orlando stood by "every word" he said in parliament and explained that he had been telling the Prime Minister the same things for the last four years.

He repeated that he reluctantly decided not to contest the next election with the party he has been militating in since he was 16 years old because he does not feel comfortable working within a party that practices "apartheid politics."

The MP said he "never was a yes-man" and noted that he opposed a number of projects backed by Nationalist administrations including the Mnajdra and St John's Co-Cathedral cases. He said MPs should not rubber-stamp government's decisions and Parliament should not be turned into a "talking shop."

Pullicino Orlando said the party has sidelined a number of prominent politicians including EU commissioner and former PN leadership contestant John Dalli, former minister Louis Galea and government backbencher Robert Arrigo.

Another guest on Dissett was Nationalist MP Franco Debono who said that he could not contest the PN's executive condemnation because he was in Parliament and similarly to Pullicino Orlando and Muglett was not informed about the meeting.

Debono said that while the Prime Minister has no objection to his candidature, he has not yet decided whether he will be contesting the next election on the PN ticket. The Ghaxaq MP added that when the the time is right he will decide but the decision will be finally taken by the PN executive.

The MP said he will not discuss whether the executive was the right organ to condemn his actions in Parliament but insisted that "the decision was not listed in the party meeting agenda and I was unaware of the discussion... nobody can take a decision on a person without being present for the meeting to defend oneself."

The MP, who was condemned for voting against former minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici, explained that he has not received a reply to the  letter he sent to executive asking the PN to revoke the condemnation. Debono contested the decision on a procedural nature and said he hadn't been given the opportunity to make his submissions under basic democratic principles and principles held by the PN.

Jesmond Mugliett who abstained on the Cachia Caruana motion said that he did not justify his vote in Parliament because he only decided to abstain in the last minute.

The former minister explained that his vote was motivated by the way the country is governed which "deeply concerns him."

On the PN's executive decision to condemn his abstention, Mugliett said "once again the executive was swayed by the hard-liners in taking a wrong decision."

Asked to comment on Cachia Caruana he said that "without taking away anything from his validity, the problem in this country is that certain individuals become indispensible."

Mugliett said that he expected the party's executive to condemn attacks he and other persons suffered from Daphne Caruana Galizia and other bloggers.  

 

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Fuq dawn ta' hawn fuq hadd mill-bekkejja nazzjonalisti bhal Demartino u shabu ma jikteb xejn? Sinjal li dawn qed jghidu l-verita u issa ahjar ghandna partit qisu mis-South Afrika jaghzel bejn u jgevola lil partitarji tieghu stess min ghandu ghajnejh blu cari u blu skuri ahseb w ara lilna l-Laburisti kif mhux jahzluna imma jgharbluna.
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Igor P. Shuvalov
What an interesting soap opera!! It's a pity that what's happening is having its effect on the nationalist interest, otherwise one would have enjoyed this soap opera.
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Id-diska li xtaqt niddedika lil Franko Debono hi "On again, off again". Enjoy.
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Sewwa jghejdu li il progress igib ir rigress..Kemm ghandi annati QATT ma niftakar lil tal PN jonxru hwejjieghom barra...Kollox kienu jaghmlu fil mohbi u fis satra tal lejl.Illum sal qalziet ta taht qeghdin jonxru barra it triq. Qeghedin jinkixfu qohob ta l-imoghodi, u nemmen li dalwaqt ser jinkixfu dawk is sigrieti u misterji li ghal bosta snin il poplu baqa fil ghama dwarhom...
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Zack Depasquale
I didn’t see the program, so I have to comment on what I read here. Dr Franco Debono is reported as saying that since Dr Gonzi has no objections for him to contest the next election, he will decide when the time comes, but in the end his candidacy has to be decided by the Party’s executive. Reading this I think that Dr Debono is trying to make us forget what he said a few weeks ago or that Dr Debono is living in another dimension. 6 th January Quote “"I have no confidence in people like Gonzi, he is a prime minister not a god, the country is going through a lot of hardship because of his stubbornness. I have no confidence in the government whatsoever," Quote 8th January “I am telling him he has lost my support and it is irresponsible of him not to put a stop to this instability, triggered by government’s bad decisions, by recalling Parliament and asking for a vote of confidence, “Quote 8th February “The crisis was created by the establishment of the oligarchy. I had made it clear that I would support the prime minister, as I had always done, but not one who was held hostage by a clique.” After these quotations and there are a hundred more, is Dr Franco Debono trying to become part of the oligarchy by trying to run on GonziPN ticket, Didn’t Franco Debono resign from GonziPN, Is he trying to make up with GonziPN, or this was a mise en scene to get rid of Carm Mifsud Bonnic the sacrificial lamb of this whole saga? If GonziPN accept Dr Franco Debono as a candidate in the next election they would have really reached the bottom. We wait for the next instalment of the GonziPN sitcom.
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The veils are being brutally torn down. The PN's party hijackers are being exposed, along with their abuses. Power corrupts, like acid. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, like you know who. For Malta's sake, let's hope a new, forward looking PN will grow out of this scorched earth.
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Nixtieq niddedika diska sabiha Maltija lil habib tal-Maltin l-onorevoli Franko Debono, sakemm jiddeciedi, hux membru ta' GonziPn jew irrizenjax, hux se jerga johrog ghal-elezzjoni li jmiss jew le, jekk l-olargija ghadhiex tinkwetah jew le, imsomma sakemm jiddeciedi x'se jaghmel b'hajtu.
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Finally a nationalist MP with the moral fibre and character to stand up for the truth and democracy. Listening to Jpo's speech taking the bull by the horns reminded me of Mintoff's speech forcing the change to the constitution in the late 80's. It was mesmerising and valiant. Shame on the NP for ostracising him now. We need more people like him to make our parliament a living democracy.
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How could he feel comfortable being a government MP and then at the same time state that he does not feel comfortable working within a party that practices "apartheid politics"? He doesn't know what he is saying or he is confused as always. However every cloud has a silver lining and it's better that these things are cropping up now so that in the next election nationalist supporters would clean the party from disloyal politicians whose only interest is to promote their own interest.
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Luke Camilleri
DCG & RCC continue to RULE OK!